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whats the difference between somones and someone's ?



neuromancerThreads: 3
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Author: Jason Nagata
   
Sep 21, 2009, 03:34pm   #1
which is the right form?

...someone's mother, someone's father or someone's child.

or ... someones mother, someones father or someones child.



EF_SeanThreads: 6
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Author: Sean, EssayForum.com
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Sep 21, 2009, 06:21pm   #2
"Someone's" is the correct form. I'm not quite sure why the spellchecker recognizes "someones" as a word.


JeannieThreads: 18
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Author: Jeannie Elliott
   
Oct 10, 2009, 02:27am   #3
Hi, neuromancer!

"Someone's" needs the "e" in the middle to assist the reader with pronunciation. I don't know why, but if it were not there, it would be pronounced differently (even in our head).

"So" is pronounced differently than "sow", and because of the many antonyms and synonyms in the English language (words that sound alike but mean something different or words that are spelled the same but mean something entirely different), we have to put an "e" at the end of some words to differentiate the sound and clarify the meaning.

Yes, I am even confused by this! Does (see...if the "e" were not there, the pronunciation would be a hard "o" as in...groan..."doe" and the plural of "doe" is "does.") anyone have a better answer?
Really good question! Consider me baffled! Teehee!

Jeannie


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Author: Stephen, EssayForum.com
   
Oct 10, 2009, 07:44pm   #4
Someone's is correct. It is a possessive case. also. It is always singular in form, even though it may refert to a group of individuals.

As to the spelling, it is a kind of compound word, so the 'e' stays as it would if the words were separated, like some one's.

Is that any more clear?


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Author: Beng Beng CHAN
   
Oct 26, 2009, 09:22am   #5
I think the spellchecker accepts the word because the programmer has not distinguished this particular word out of the millions of plural word possibilities.

It also sounds like a foreign food -- so-mo-nes!

:)


go1f4parThreads: 1
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Oct 27, 2009, 04:28pm   #6
someone's - is a possessive form and a correct form


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Author: Waterberg
   
Oct 28, 2009, 07:28am   #7
Hi! neuromancer

Someones it seems like a poor statement and espeacial in English subject so therefore someone"s is the perfect one


JoeysonThreads: 7
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Author: Joe Inman
   
Nov 19, 2009, 01:44pm   #8
Someone's= Someone is.
Is someones even a word?


JeannieThreads: 18
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Author: Jeannie Elliott
   
Nov 19, 2009, 02:32pm   #9
Joeyson:
Someone's= Someone is.
Is someones even a word?


Yes, it is a misgrammatisized word. :D


JeannieThreads: 18
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Author: Jeannie Elliott
   
Nov 21, 2009, 06:50am   #10
[quote=Jeannie]Joeyson:
Someone's= Someone is.
Is someones even a word?


Yes, it is a misgrammatisized word. :D[/quote

Me thinks it is a word, "someones"
that holds no meaning really
possessive it is not, nor mult
Unless you count tom-foolery

Only with poetic license...


meisj0nThreads: 9
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Nov 21, 2009, 05:36pm   #11
I think someones is like peoples or persons.
different groups of someone, therefore someones. >_>

example: there was a person at the party. -regular
there were several persons at the party. -somewhat poetic but it may be used for persons of importance, to show that each is an individual.

same with someones I assume.

as for someone's, yes it is compound and yes it is the correct form here.

I think I'm loving the general writing section more than undergrad and term paper ones. ^^ hehe "ones"


EF_KevinThreads: 33
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Nov 22, 2009, 11:44am   #12
My mom used to get so mad if any of us said "these ones" or "those ones." She would actually attack us with her fists.


heyoomimiThreads: 2
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Author: Taing
   
Nov 22, 2009, 01:38pm   #13
Someone's shows possession, which is what you are trying to do in your case.


KengThreads: 40
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Author: Panyapon Chukate
   
Dec 2, 2009, 10:14pm   #14
i think i do not use someones. I always use someone's in my essay. it is a possessive adjective.

such as my car Keng's house.

Can i use someones in the sentence?


EF_KevinThreads: 33
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Dec 4, 2009, 03:46pm   #15
Nope, you always should use the apostrophe:
Someone's.

I corrected someone's essay.

I gave him a ten, so he gave me back a five and five ones.

Here is the way to use "some ones." Ha ha:
He gave me a five and some ones.


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Author: Panyapon Chukate
   
Dec 4, 2009, 09:18pm   #16
Thank you


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Author: Jeannie Elliott
   
Dec 5, 2009, 06:53am   #17
EF_Kevin:
My mom used to get so mad if any of us said "these ones" or "those ones." She would actually attack us with her fists.

~Always have a steady supply of bing cherries on hand for those "special moments.




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